Peggy I need your help again. I am a healthcare worker, I have my religious exemption and all the information I can collect, however I was informed that if I don't get the flu shot by 11/8/24, I have to wear a suffocation device. I informed employee health about my exemption, and she stated that only covers the jab. I told her I have a religious exemption for the suffocation device also, she stated the infectious disease director of the hospital's policy won't accept that. I live in Indiana, I know my civil liberties, however I am not sure I can win this. Is there any advice you or anyone else can offer? I was fired from my job three years ago for the same reason.
Such a great discussion to start Peggy, good idea. While you're correct the governors were directly responsible for allowing the covid scam to bloom, let us not fail to mention the wicked vermin who fertilized the soil, making the debacle viable in the first place. I know you do.
Case in point: We have some new friends who left California for Texas, the state they figured most likely to Secede. They are now top-tier freedom fighters in the Texas Nationalist Movement who came here to help make sure "Texas does not become California." Hard to argue with that. Dave and Lori are true patriots and modern miracles navigating a sea of insouciance.
Let us no longer submit to the great lie that it was all settled in 1865. Yeah right, by an unCivil War executed by a marfanoid Bond villain, no less. Gimme a break. Secession is a Natural right that cannot be "settled" sorry.
In related news, it is immoral, illegal and blatantly unjust to force anyone to stay in an abusive relationship. Heck, I've had ex-wives treat me better than this.
I certainly understand the anchoring effect of precious grandchildren, having four of them myself. If you cannot leave your state, why not help your state to leave the wretched mess created by the swamp scum infesting DC. Many states now have active Secession movements, check 'em out. If you want to take some real action for freedom, other than "voting" this is it.
It will not be easy, since thoroughly corrupted and crumbling leviathan will not take kindly to states leaving and taking their tax dollars with them. But we have reached that point in history when the price of staying is higher than the price of leaving, in my humble opinion.
And I can think of a hundred good reasons to split. Here's one of the darker ones ...
We moved to CA in 8/11 for my husband’s job (we had lived there for 2 years previously 2003-2005). We lived in conservative leaning Thousand Oaks and in 10 years, it did a 180 and the leftist activists took over. My son was graduating high school in June 2021 so we decided we would leave then because all our conservative friends were abandoning ship and we have no ties there. Who wants to pay 13% income tax for nice weather? Not to mention we had to evacuate our home twice due to fires. When COVID hit, I thought I might literally go insane. We took a couple trips in 2020 to GA and FL just to get away from the insanity. We left CA in February of 2022. They were still Cooties crazy there. As we drove across the country heading for TN, every state was normal and I cannot describe the relief I felt. We love it here in TN. Unfortunately, both my boys will be back there. My oldest moved back in May for a job that he loves, and my youngest will be moving back after graduating college in June for a job as well. They both swear it is temporary because it is not somewhere they want to raise a family. CA is a beautiful state and it is a shame that the lefties have ruined it.
62 years+ in Ca! I love it here, born in City or Orange raised on the small town farms/ranches area of the central valley, south of Fresno about 50 miles. I now live in N. Ca. North of Sacramento, and I believe God is on the move in Ca. and it is worth FIGHTING FOR ! I believe the rain of newsome is nearing it's end, I think he is bored and has bigger aspirations but he has a bad rapport in politics I think grannie nancy will set him up for other things, we the people have an opportunity next month to make huge changes, many are not home schooling and making a difference locally. I live in Yuba Count and it is a RED county, and Wheatland most likely the 2nd largest city will keep it RED !
I got out before things hit the fan. The end of 2019. And then covid hit. We sold our house in Northern California and moved to Nevada. It seems to be the only state that they are not interested in infiltrating as much and yet still close by my friends and family. My daughter and her kids are still in California and it scares me to death. All of the fires, flooding and fighting
Hi Peggy, I was in Asheville, NC in April for the first time. It was cool and rainy but beautiful. I actually thought about moving there but at 78 and single, moving can be daunting to say the least. Then. of course "the drowning" occurred there, perpetrated by God only knows which of the many entities that have decided to change God's weather pattern "for the better" and to suit their selfish needs. So Asheville was scratched off the list of places to move. California has been my home since 1975 when I moved here for a much better life than I had in the Midwest. Beautiful weather, spectacular scenery, endless opportunities, mega cultural experiencs, and a chance to live a freer more opportunity filled life than I had in Indiana. It was Jerry Browns first time around as governor and he was young and brought innovation and opened doors, such as legalizing acupuncture, which had been considered "quackery" and "practicing medicine without a license" by California's medical bureaucracy for over a century! I was a pharmacist at the time and after the unnecessary death of a good friend due to medical malfeasance at Cedars Sinai Hospital in LA, I decided to go into it.. What a wonderful adventure into one of the oldest and most well documented healing sciences! I still Love Chinese medicine and feel I have been privileged to have learned it. The Chinese consider their Traditional Medicine one of their 8 Great Treasures. That is now 40 years past and sadly our State has reached a nadir beginning with the ascendance of Gordon Getty's Gang of Uber Lunatic Lefties. It has taken a Lot of Work by people like us, and most especially you, to stand up against the crazy policies of the few. I don't know where I would live other than here... Hawaii is soooo beautiful but sooooo Corrupt, Florida is beautiful too but has the climate of a swamp and those God awful Hurricanes, especially now that we know the "Powers that shouldn't Be" are manipulating them. I have considered moving but to be honest now that we have done so much to move the needle back in the direction of sanity here, maybe we should stick around and continue to work to make it the place we all thought we knew and loved decades ago......
We recently moved from Minnesota to the neighboring state of Iowa. We have adult children & grandchildren in southern Mn and northern Iowa, for the most part.
Our story is a little different in that we defied the tyrannical mandate of Minnesota’s Governor, Tim Walz, by opening our restaurant during his unlawful lockdowns. Long story short, I was slapped with 5 civil suits and 2 criminal suits. I battled in the Mn courts and was ultimately sentenced to 90 days in jail for serving a cup of coffee to a willing customer. I missed out on very special family events that I will never regain. I was denied due process throughout this ridiculous ordeal. I was not allowed to present my defense, being Constitutional, statutory, and case law. That’s right. I could not mention my only defense to the jurors or I risked contempt of court. I gave it my all as I presented my case sui juris, but ultimately was thrown in jail, immediately with zero time to put my affairs in order, you know, because I was such a dangerous criminal!
The state continued to harass us by way of raids on our home and our business.
We finally decided it was in our best interest and the interest of our family we live out of state. The state had made their message clear. Leave or we continue to harass you and make your life miserable.
I actually left my home state of guess what? "Florida."
Yep in 2015. It was getting way too crowded from what I remembered as a child and then raising my own family. So I sold everything in 2007 to buy land on Lookout mtn in NE Alabama where it is still very quiet. So I finally moved permanently to my land and built a homestead where I grow my own food. Too many people and has massively increased since I made my decision. Not mention the traffic is totally nuts. So yes I still love my location and the traffic here is near nothing. Lol It's like going back in time to how it was in the 70s. It's wonderful and very beautiful where Ilive nextbto the Little River Canyon Nature Preserve. My adult childre though, still live in FL so I do return quite often to visit and they come see me too. Good to see you exploring other states as well.
I lived in CA from 1976 to 2012 and after spending most of my life there my husband and I decided to leave because of the government and we were just fed up. I've lived now in TN for about 12 years and even though TN is "conservative" it is more nominally Christian and people are just as apathetic here as they are in CA. I've gone back to visit CA 3x since I left and each time it was worse than the prior times. My few friends who still live there are only there because of their grandchildren.
We moved from Oregon to Washington State. To be with my in-laws and help. This Washington State is just as crazy as Oregon, if not crazier. I will get off the Left Coast as soon as my oldest (who is a senior) graduates. This is ridiculous and if "she" wins, I definitely will move to a Red area and leave the hubster behind . . . .
Just bought a property 3 miles from beautiful white sand beaches in a quiet little town in FL. Can't wait to leave the insanity of Commiefornia behind. I feel safer taking my chances with mother nature than my home burning down by a fire caused by an arsonist, or being assaulted by one of the MANY criminals CA releases daily.
I'm in the Denver metro area. Many friends have moved, others want to move. I keep telling them, we are right on the front lines here; fight here where we know people and places, and we might win for everywhere. Run away, and you will still have to fight, but then you won't know the area and they will still come for you, having all the resources of Colorado on their side.
Peggy! I’m a lifelong Californian who moved to Florida (Space Coast) from Sacramento after your workshop helped me invoke my rights and get a reasonable accommodation from the crazy corporation I was working for in California. I love it here in Florida! I’ve taken to Florida like a fish to water! If you have any Healthy American activities I’d like join!
We're originally from corrupt NJ and moved to Sunny Calif. in 1972....all was tolerable until about 2008 when Obama took over in 2009 and stated the USA was no longer a Christian country.....even though I saw the handwriting on the wall since the 60's I never thought it would get this bad as it has since 2020. Along with the Chinese virus (Covid-19) attacking the world, the hate speech and dividing people through words....Being 84 and hubby 87 we're going stick it out here in our nice senior secure community with 2 of our sons that are staying put also in Redondo Beach. But my sister in law is moving to NY state with her son and his wife, and my niece and husband with 10 of their 15 children recently moved from Idaho to North Carolina because. Both moves were because of the politics of both states.....You are an awesome breath of fresh air. Thank you for all you have fought for these last few years......Best of luck and blessings to you both, Ann Chorbi
I was born and raised in Sacramento. I fled California in December 2021. I knew from the beginning that covid was a scam. I was babysitting my new grandson in the summer of 2020 in San Francisco. The breaking point for me was when SF required proof of vaccinations to eat at a restaurant or a pub. I never took any shots so I wasn't able to go out. It was such a Nazi move!! My best friend had moved to St. Augustine in 2018. I went to visit her in October 2021. I fell in love with the friendly helpful people, the freedom and beauty of Florida! I came home and told my kids I'm moving to Florida. I sold my house and everything in it. I left CA the last week of December and drove to FL. I bought a house in Palm Coast. I love living here! Best thing I ever did for my health (mental & physical) and happiness!
Peggy I need your help again. I am a healthcare worker, I have my religious exemption and all the information I can collect, however I was informed that if I don't get the flu shot by 11/8/24, I have to wear a suffocation device. I informed employee health about my exemption, and she stated that only covers the jab. I told her I have a religious exemption for the suffocation device also, she stated the infectious disease director of the hospital's policy won't accept that. I live in Indiana, I know my civil liberties, however I am not sure I can win this. Is there any advice you or anyone else can offer? I was fired from my job three years ago for the same reason.
Such a great discussion to start Peggy, good idea. While you're correct the governors were directly responsible for allowing the covid scam to bloom, let us not fail to mention the wicked vermin who fertilized the soil, making the debacle viable in the first place. I know you do.
Case in point: We have some new friends who left California for Texas, the state they figured most likely to Secede. They are now top-tier freedom fighters in the Texas Nationalist Movement who came here to help make sure "Texas does not become California." Hard to argue with that. Dave and Lori are true patriots and modern miracles navigating a sea of insouciance.
Let us no longer submit to the great lie that it was all settled in 1865. Yeah right, by an unCivil War executed by a marfanoid Bond villain, no less. Gimme a break. Secession is a Natural right that cannot be "settled" sorry.
In related news, it is immoral, illegal and blatantly unjust to force anyone to stay in an abusive relationship. Heck, I've had ex-wives treat me better than this.
I certainly understand the anchoring effect of precious grandchildren, having four of them myself. If you cannot leave your state, why not help your state to leave the wretched mess created by the swamp scum infesting DC. Many states now have active Secession movements, check 'em out. If you want to take some real action for freedom, other than "voting" this is it.
It will not be easy, since thoroughly corrupted and crumbling leviathan will not take kindly to states leaving and taking their tax dollars with them. But we have reached that point in history when the price of staying is higher than the price of leaving, in my humble opinion.
And I can think of a hundred good reasons to split. Here's one of the darker ones ...
https://open.substack.com/pub/doc115/p/yet-another-case-for-peaceful-secession?r=18tk5o&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thanks again Peggy, keep firing.
Best of luck to all,
~~ Doc.
#Texit
#LiveFreeOrDie
We moved to CA in 8/11 for my husband’s job (we had lived there for 2 years previously 2003-2005). We lived in conservative leaning Thousand Oaks and in 10 years, it did a 180 and the leftist activists took over. My son was graduating high school in June 2021 so we decided we would leave then because all our conservative friends were abandoning ship and we have no ties there. Who wants to pay 13% income tax for nice weather? Not to mention we had to evacuate our home twice due to fires. When COVID hit, I thought I might literally go insane. We took a couple trips in 2020 to GA and FL just to get away from the insanity. We left CA in February of 2022. They were still Cooties crazy there. As we drove across the country heading for TN, every state was normal and I cannot describe the relief I felt. We love it here in TN. Unfortunately, both my boys will be back there. My oldest moved back in May for a job that he loves, and my youngest will be moving back after graduating college in June for a job as well. They both swear it is temporary because it is not somewhere they want to raise a family. CA is a beautiful state and it is a shame that the lefties have ruined it.
Hi Peggy,
62 years+ in Ca! I love it here, born in City or Orange raised on the small town farms/ranches area of the central valley, south of Fresno about 50 miles. I now live in N. Ca. North of Sacramento, and I believe God is on the move in Ca. and it is worth FIGHTING FOR ! I believe the rain of newsome is nearing it's end, I think he is bored and has bigger aspirations but he has a bad rapport in politics I think grannie nancy will set him up for other things, we the people have an opportunity next month to make huge changes, many are not home schooling and making a difference locally. I live in Yuba Count and it is a RED county, and Wheatland most likely the 2nd largest city will keep it RED !
I got out before things hit the fan. The end of 2019. And then covid hit. We sold our house in Northern California and moved to Nevada. It seems to be the only state that they are not interested in infiltrating as much and yet still close by my friends and family. My daughter and her kids are still in California and it scares me to death. All of the fires, flooding and fighting
Hi Peggy, I was in Asheville, NC in April for the first time. It was cool and rainy but beautiful. I actually thought about moving there but at 78 and single, moving can be daunting to say the least. Then. of course "the drowning" occurred there, perpetrated by God only knows which of the many entities that have decided to change God's weather pattern "for the better" and to suit their selfish needs. So Asheville was scratched off the list of places to move. California has been my home since 1975 when I moved here for a much better life than I had in the Midwest. Beautiful weather, spectacular scenery, endless opportunities, mega cultural experiencs, and a chance to live a freer more opportunity filled life than I had in Indiana. It was Jerry Browns first time around as governor and he was young and brought innovation and opened doors, such as legalizing acupuncture, which had been considered "quackery" and "practicing medicine without a license" by California's medical bureaucracy for over a century! I was a pharmacist at the time and after the unnecessary death of a good friend due to medical malfeasance at Cedars Sinai Hospital in LA, I decided to go into it.. What a wonderful adventure into one of the oldest and most well documented healing sciences! I still Love Chinese medicine and feel I have been privileged to have learned it. The Chinese consider their Traditional Medicine one of their 8 Great Treasures. That is now 40 years past and sadly our State has reached a nadir beginning with the ascendance of Gordon Getty's Gang of Uber Lunatic Lefties. It has taken a Lot of Work by people like us, and most especially you, to stand up against the crazy policies of the few. I don't know where I would live other than here... Hawaii is soooo beautiful but sooooo Corrupt, Florida is beautiful too but has the climate of a swamp and those God awful Hurricanes, especially now that we know the "Powers that shouldn't Be" are manipulating them. I have considered moving but to be honest now that we have done so much to move the needle back in the direction of sanity here, maybe we should stick around and continue to work to make it the place we all thought we knew and loved decades ago......
We recently moved from Minnesota to the neighboring state of Iowa. We have adult children & grandchildren in southern Mn and northern Iowa, for the most part.
Our story is a little different in that we defied the tyrannical mandate of Minnesota’s Governor, Tim Walz, by opening our restaurant during his unlawful lockdowns. Long story short, I was slapped with 5 civil suits and 2 criminal suits. I battled in the Mn courts and was ultimately sentenced to 90 days in jail for serving a cup of coffee to a willing customer. I missed out on very special family events that I will never regain. I was denied due process throughout this ridiculous ordeal. I was not allowed to present my defense, being Constitutional, statutory, and case law. That’s right. I could not mention my only defense to the jurors or I risked contempt of court. I gave it my all as I presented my case sui juris, but ultimately was thrown in jail, immediately with zero time to put my affairs in order, you know, because I was such a dangerous criminal!
The state continued to harass us by way of raids on our home and our business.
We finally decided it was in our best interest and the interest of our family we live out of state. The state had made their message clear. Leave or we continue to harass you and make your life miserable.
We moved to Iowa and are glad to
have some peace. May God help our country.
God bless you for all your selfless work, Peggy.
I actually left my home state of guess what? "Florida."
Yep in 2015. It was getting way too crowded from what I remembered as a child and then raising my own family. So I sold everything in 2007 to buy land on Lookout mtn in NE Alabama where it is still very quiet. So I finally moved permanently to my land and built a homestead where I grow my own food. Too many people and has massively increased since I made my decision. Not mention the traffic is totally nuts. So yes I still love my location and the traffic here is near nothing. Lol It's like going back in time to how it was in the 70s. It's wonderful and very beautiful where Ilive nextbto the Little River Canyon Nature Preserve. My adult childre though, still live in FL so I do return quite often to visit and they come see me too. Good to see you exploring other states as well.
I lived in CA from 1976 to 2012 and after spending most of my life there my husband and I decided to leave because of the government and we were just fed up. I've lived now in TN for about 12 years and even though TN is "conservative" it is more nominally Christian and people are just as apathetic here as they are in CA. I've gone back to visit CA 3x since I left and each time it was worse than the prior times. My few friends who still live there are only there because of their grandchildren.
We moved from Oregon to Washington State. To be with my in-laws and help. This Washington State is just as crazy as Oregon, if not crazier. I will get off the Left Coast as soon as my oldest (who is a senior) graduates. This is ridiculous and if "she" wins, I definitely will move to a Red area and leave the hubster behind . . . .
Just bought a property 3 miles from beautiful white sand beaches in a quiet little town in FL. Can't wait to leave the insanity of Commiefornia behind. I feel safer taking my chances with mother nature than my home burning down by a fire caused by an arsonist, or being assaulted by one of the MANY criminals CA releases daily.
I'm in the Denver metro area. Many friends have moved, others want to move. I keep telling them, we are right on the front lines here; fight here where we know people and places, and we might win for everywhere. Run away, and you will still have to fight, but then you won't know the area and they will still come for you, having all the resources of Colorado on their side.
Trying to leave to a new state. I'm not Cali born.
Peggy! I’m a lifelong Californian who moved to Florida (Space Coast) from Sacramento after your workshop helped me invoke my rights and get a reasonable accommodation from the crazy corporation I was working for in California. I love it here in Florida! I’ve taken to Florida like a fish to water! If you have any Healthy American activities I’d like join!
Hi dear Peggy,
We're originally from corrupt NJ and moved to Sunny Calif. in 1972....all was tolerable until about 2008 when Obama took over in 2009 and stated the USA was no longer a Christian country.....even though I saw the handwriting on the wall since the 60's I never thought it would get this bad as it has since 2020. Along with the Chinese virus (Covid-19) attacking the world, the hate speech and dividing people through words....Being 84 and hubby 87 we're going stick it out here in our nice senior secure community with 2 of our sons that are staying put also in Redondo Beach. But my sister in law is moving to NY state with her son and his wife, and my niece and husband with 10 of their 15 children recently moved from Idaho to North Carolina because. Both moves were because of the politics of both states.....You are an awesome breath of fresh air. Thank you for all you have fought for these last few years......Best of luck and blessings to you both, Ann Chorbi
I was born and raised in Sacramento. I fled California in December 2021. I knew from the beginning that covid was a scam. I was babysitting my new grandson in the summer of 2020 in San Francisco. The breaking point for me was when SF required proof of vaccinations to eat at a restaurant or a pub. I never took any shots so I wasn't able to go out. It was such a Nazi move!! My best friend had moved to St. Augustine in 2018. I went to visit her in October 2021. I fell in love with the friendly helpful people, the freedom and beauty of Florida! I came home and told my kids I'm moving to Florida. I sold my house and everything in it. I left CA the last week of December and drove to FL. I bought a house in Palm Coast. I love living here! Best thing I ever did for my health (mental & physical) and happiness!
Same here! Moved from Sacramento to Space Coast, FL in 2022!