I disagree with Peggy and others about what Del Bigtree is saying and doing. Del is not using this bill to say what he ULTIMATELY wants regarding vaccines. He said we can't win if come marching thru the "front door" with a law that DEMANDS everything we REALLY want and believe is best. Hearts and minds have to be changed first. So, this bill provides a reasonable and hopefully acceptable Trojan horse to the opposition, not to defeat vaccines but to first destroy the darkness.
Peggy, I understand all of your points of analysis, and they seem compelling, but I think your critique is flawed because you are misreading the bill. After I listened to Del BT's recent response in Episode 376, I understand why it is titled The Art of War. I think Del clearly explains the purpose of the bill, why it functions like a Trojan horse, and what makes it clever. Without his perspective, I would have been persuaded by your analysis, I think.
The title of the bill, To Increase Vaccine Confidence, should be a reasonable sounding goal to most vaccine supporters (the Trojan horse aspect). The clever part is that the bill's requirements shed light on a few of the terrible flaws in all vaccines that need correction BEFORE anyone can be disallowed this exemption, thus guaranteeing the chances of more people exercising their right of Informed Consent unimpeded.
Its underlying purpose is to educate and enlighten lawmakers and others to ONE of the terrible deficiencies of vaccines, which is that NONE of them are sufficiently tested for safety. At minute mark 30-31 (not 40-41 BTW), Del talks about how "there is no safe vaccine." (Del never says that he wants "safe vaccines" or that he believes it is possible.) The Criteria #1 testing standard is not met for ANY current vaccines, thus allowing ANYONE to claim an exemption on this basis alone!. Even if testing is satisfied for a future new vaccine, Criteria #4 would not be met for ANY vaccine, because no vaccine manufacturer currently has liability for deaths or serious injuries caused by the vaccine, UNLESS the 1986 vaccine immunity law gets repealed! Furthermore, Criteria #2 requires vaccine injuries to be posted on FDA's website for all to see. Finally, what are the odds that Criteria #3 can prove vaccine deaths and injuries being less than that caused by the infection it is intended to prevent? There are no vaccines currently that can meet all four of these minimum standards! Therefore, under this bill, anyone could claim this exemption for any currently existing vaccine if they wish.
At first, I was disappointed that Del BT did not acknowledge the things that concerned Peggy, but as I understood Del's explanation better and read the bill correctly, I saw the answers for most if not all of Peggy's concerns. For example, the bill does not try to define anything about what "required vaccines or mandates" are; it simply establishes a new or additional EXEMPTION FOR THEM.
Peggy, I think you are reading it wrong "that certain vaccines would NOT allow for exemptions." I think Section A is clear that " ....AN EXEMPTION EXISTS FOR required vaccines that do not meet the minimal standards provided in this part." Period. That is the essence of the entire bill. But if a required vaccine DOES MEET these minimum standards, then the bill simply says you could not use THIS EXEMPTION. But you could still use other exemptions that may exist. But I would agree that part of paragraph Section B is not clearly written, hence you see an implied statement or two that is not really there.
Whatever Del's position, motives, and beliefs are on vaccines, germs, viruses, etc., I'm sure he has expounded on that many times before, and generally produces fruit consistent with his talk, otherwise others would not find him credible. I can see how Del may be misunderstood when using unusual tactics. And none of us have a perfect personality from which we express and operate, yet God still loves us and uses us for his glory... or not.
Yes, it's certainly not a "good bill" but did it occur to you that Del himself may not be the brightest bulb out there? When the only show in town is controlled by criminals and you believe they are the only ones who can help you when you develop a serious life threatening problem then you will try to do business with them ... this is the conundrum that hundreds of millions of Americans face... daily. We are literally swimming in a sea of delusional thinking about the "benefits of Western medicine" and a couple hours sitting in front of the Boob Tube listening to the mind numbing litany of "Side Effects" from the avalanche of pharmaceutical products, none of which actually get you well but are designed only to "manage illnesses", eventually brainwashes even the Del Bigtrees and everyone else!. I have seen the light decades ago when a person I dearly loved died from Hep B at the hands of morons at Cedar Cyanide Hospital in Los Angeles and I was an 11 year practicing Registered Pharmacist. They "could not try anything" I suggested because it might "violate protocol" and get them in trouble! Better to let the patient die than do anything as "dangerous" as Vitamin C infusions! I had done the research, I didn't get my Pharmacy Degree from Purdue University by sitting on my hands and making unfounded "recommendations", but they wouldn't/ couldnt/ shouldn't try anything other than their FDA "approved treatments" which in 1981 was basically "Nothing"... Nada... infusions of D5W... sugar water! Shortly after his death I discovered dandelion root tea could very likely have saved his life by reading a book called "The Way of Herbs" by Dr Michael Tierra ND LAc. A few months after Ken died I had the unique opportunity to be able to recommend it to a Hep B patient who came into the drugstore where I was working asking for some help. His doctor told him to get some Vitamins from the Pharmacist and go home and spend 2 months in bed. Instead he took 3 cups of dandelion root tea and 10 Gms of Vitamin C daily and was over his Hepatitis B in 2 WEEKS! (My friend had spent nearly a month in the hospital and only got worse!) He came back to the drugstore where I was working to thank me IN PERSON... he was so grateful!
My eyes began opening after that to the criminal FDA and CDC and how they prevented any real change or innovation in treatments of illness here! A year or so later I read the incredible "World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B-17" by G Edward Griffin ... a tome of mind blowing revelations! Basically what we are dealing with is fascism which has taken over first our medicine and now, tragically, our Entire government.
After those two experiences, I went looking for a place to study herbal medicine and stumbled into Acupuncture School which thanks to Jerry Brown in the 1970's also included the study of Chinese Herbal Medicine with the oldest and largest Materia Medica in the World. After 4 years of schooling at SAMRA University, which sadly went bankrupt during the 2009 Clinton/Bush Crash, I had a Masters and Doctorate in Acupuncture and Chinese Herbal Medicine. I have now been practicing for 36 years and can tell you that most of what people take as "medicine" in our country is NOT designed to cure a DAMN THING! There are NO cures in our medical system... just "treatments".. ad infinitum et ad nauseum and they are ALL poisons.... ie "dangerous drugs"... Herbal medicines, given to us by The Creator and discovered over thousands of years by our ancestors who were much more in tune with Nature than we are do have the ability to cure disease ... provided we have a system to properly diagnose what is going on and apply that knowledge ! Thank GOD the Chinese people have respect for their ancestral learning and did NOT throw away their "folk medicine" as we so condescendingly call it. I can tell you it is all based on the best principles of science... Natural science rather than artificial "organic science" which attributes all things to mindless chemicals.
I wish I could tell you here about the thousands of people I and my colleagues in Chinese Medicine have helped who were at the end of the rope health wise and how the application of a few pennies worth of natural plant based medicine has brought them back to health, not to mention the AMAZING application of acupuncture principles which is an ENTIRE Science in and of itself!
May I finish by saying that SARS Covid 2 was literally wiped out in China by acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine and this is FAR FROM the FIRST plague the Chinese have weathered using it over the last 2000 years! So when Del Bigtree and the American people finally realize that WE DON'T NEED THE DAMN PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES... we don't NEED to toady to Pfizer and Moderna, we don't NEED to spend TRILLIONS of Dollars to the point of bankruptcy... There are OTHER REAL medicines that WORK ... with virtually NO DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS and AT A FRACTION OF THE COST!! And THEY WORK BETTER than Most ALL of the poisons Americans vainly rely on daily for some modicum of relief from our myriad corporate created "illnesses"... THEN and only THEN will we stop giving these Pharma shysters a "PASS"....
Del - Schmell..... seriously when will people stop thinking these guys have anyones best interests! Wolf in sheeps clothing comes to mind.... Funny they dont seem to be struggling with any form of censorship, and they always seem to slip in some messaging re the climate viruses boogie men etc along the way. Love from Oz xx
To take this further, what is a “vaccine?” To date, and probably for every date going forward, a vaccine will never vaccinate against anything for two reasons: 1- the offender (“virus”) does not exist, and 2- antibodies are non specific meaning they do not bind to just one thing, so even if there was a “thing”, there is no antibody that will specifically bind to just one thing which invalidates the whole fiction of “vaccines”. Until we get off the germ theory Kool-aid, these ridiculous arguments will never stop and attempt after attempt will be made to dupe the public. We have to get to the heart of the matter. The Big Tree is keeping germ theory alive and he knows he’s doing this and his technique is to reel in those that have partial understanding, and then derail them so that they are more or less subtracted from the truth movement.
Firstly, these “government” employees are undeclared foreign agents (tories), and are masquerading as government (lower level don’t know, but higher level absolutely know they are not unincorporated government). That is treason. Secondly, there is no such thing as a “disease”, nor a “virus”, and thus no need to inject something called a “vaccine” no matter how safe some man or woman deems it to be. May God keep you safe Peggy. Would love to have you and your husband for a home-cooked vegan organic dinner in our NoCal house!
Thank you, Peggy for being the voice of reason and standing up for the people. The bottom line is that vaccines are poison. Period. Why would I ever intentionally put poison into my body??
Peggy, thank you for your research and your ability to speak the truth in a caring, polite way—it is your mark of consistently caring for all of humanity.
It is very clear that you are being very discerning about information, or “missing information” and when you expose this, eyes are continually opened.
Medical “science” is not what it used to be. In our day and age I call it “sc$ence”.
It never was, never is, and never will be “a one size fits all”.
I’ve known about all these people since the very beginning. Our youngest son has TS & I watched how that org was co opted by harma in 2007-8. So it’s easy for me to read between all the lies. I met DBT in person in 12/2019 at a debate in NYC. I went alone so that I could watch everyone, everything. I didn’t like the innate feeling I had watching D pose with moms of V injured children like he was some sort of rock star idol. The entire event was like some sort of MLM event and totally bizarre.
FF to March 2021 a week after our stepson was killed by the J&J shot, Del called me on my cell phone and wanted my husband and I to fly out the next morning to go on his show. Of course we said NO, I’ve never felt so repulsed by a person’s personal desperation to reach out to a grieving family, NO LESS, to be used as his personal victims for money & views. It is my opinion that these people are very evil, I’ve always said this from 2016-17 >. But I had to witness it in person to truly know how far they will go. My faith and CONFIDENCE are in the hands of my personal savior Jesus Christ who keeps me safe from these evil doer’s. It is my prayer that others will awake.
Thank you Peggy for your keen discernment, unbinding quest for the truth and the courage to share it. 🙏❤️
I truly had not kept up with Del Bigtree for awhile so I was surprised to hear this from him! Being that when the vaccines were first released, he is the one that had 3 nurses from different areas on his show who had been vaccinated and were affected by them in ways such as losing their ability to walk, so weak they could not get out of bed. They were forced to take the vaccine and Del Big Tree was appalled. So now he is in the pocket of big Pharma??? What a hypocrite!
However, I remember that they could no longer work, and they had no recourse with the drug companies. they also said their own insurance companies were not paying for anything. I guess i don't remember that they said "yes"
Thank you for making it crystal clear that Del is in the pocket of the vaccine industry - something I came to realize years ago. Now he has exposed himself for the fraud that he is. Because of you, thousands of people will understand that he is a dangerous charlatan.
The pharma documents themselves prove there is "no" legitimate testing. Turtles All the Way Down, the papers being released, the documentary, The Truth About Vaccines. There are NO safe vaccines. Never were, never will be. The medical industry is compromised. It started when the Roosevelt's takeover of it. Do the research. Unless it has been removed, the documents are there. Read the truth about the so called "Spanish flu". It started in Ft Riley Kansas from a "vaccine" experiment on soldiers for meningitis.
I disagree with Peggy and others about what Del Bigtree is saying and doing. Del is not using this bill to say what he ULTIMATELY wants regarding vaccines. He said we can't win if come marching thru the "front door" with a law that DEMANDS everything we REALLY want and believe is best. Hearts and minds have to be changed first. So, this bill provides a reasonable and hopefully acceptable Trojan horse to the opposition, not to defeat vaccines but to first destroy the darkness.
Peggy, I understand all of your points of analysis, and they seem compelling, but I think your critique is flawed because you are misreading the bill. After I listened to Del BT's recent response in Episode 376, I understand why it is titled The Art of War. I think Del clearly explains the purpose of the bill, why it functions like a Trojan horse, and what makes it clever. Without his perspective, I would have been persuaded by your analysis, I think.
The title of the bill, To Increase Vaccine Confidence, should be a reasonable sounding goal to most vaccine supporters (the Trojan horse aspect). The clever part is that the bill's requirements shed light on a few of the terrible flaws in all vaccines that need correction BEFORE anyone can be disallowed this exemption, thus guaranteeing the chances of more people exercising their right of Informed Consent unimpeded.
Its underlying purpose is to educate and enlighten lawmakers and others to ONE of the terrible deficiencies of vaccines, which is that NONE of them are sufficiently tested for safety. At minute mark 30-31 (not 40-41 BTW), Del talks about how "there is no safe vaccine." (Del never says that he wants "safe vaccines" or that he believes it is possible.) The Criteria #1 testing standard is not met for ANY current vaccines, thus allowing ANYONE to claim an exemption on this basis alone!. Even if testing is satisfied for a future new vaccine, Criteria #4 would not be met for ANY vaccine, because no vaccine manufacturer currently has liability for deaths or serious injuries caused by the vaccine, UNLESS the 1986 vaccine immunity law gets repealed! Furthermore, Criteria #2 requires vaccine injuries to be posted on FDA's website for all to see. Finally, what are the odds that Criteria #3 can prove vaccine deaths and injuries being less than that caused by the infection it is intended to prevent? There are no vaccines currently that can meet all four of these minimum standards! Therefore, under this bill, anyone could claim this exemption for any currently existing vaccine if they wish.
At first, I was disappointed that Del BT did not acknowledge the things that concerned Peggy, but as I understood Del's explanation better and read the bill correctly, I saw the answers for most if not all of Peggy's concerns. For example, the bill does not try to define anything about what "required vaccines or mandates" are; it simply establishes a new or additional EXEMPTION FOR THEM.
Peggy, I think you are reading it wrong "that certain vaccines would NOT allow for exemptions." I think Section A is clear that " ....AN EXEMPTION EXISTS FOR required vaccines that do not meet the minimal standards provided in this part." Period. That is the essence of the entire bill. But if a required vaccine DOES MEET these minimum standards, then the bill simply says you could not use THIS EXEMPTION. But you could still use other exemptions that may exist. But I would agree that part of paragraph Section B is not clearly written, hence you see an implied statement or two that is not really there.
Whatever Del's position, motives, and beliefs are on vaccines, germs, viruses, etc., I'm sure he has expounded on that many times before, and generally produces fruit consistent with his talk, otherwise others would not find him credible. I can see how Del may be misunderstood when using unusual tactics. And none of us have a perfect personality from which we express and operate, yet God still loves us and uses us for his glory... or not.
Yes, it's certainly not a "good bill" but did it occur to you that Del himself may not be the brightest bulb out there? When the only show in town is controlled by criminals and you believe they are the only ones who can help you when you develop a serious life threatening problem then you will try to do business with them ... this is the conundrum that hundreds of millions of Americans face... daily. We are literally swimming in a sea of delusional thinking about the "benefits of Western medicine" and a couple hours sitting in front of the Boob Tube listening to the mind numbing litany of "Side Effects" from the avalanche of pharmaceutical products, none of which actually get you well but are designed only to "manage illnesses", eventually brainwashes even the Del Bigtrees and everyone else!. I have seen the light decades ago when a person I dearly loved died from Hep B at the hands of morons at Cedar Cyanide Hospital in Los Angeles and I was an 11 year practicing Registered Pharmacist. They "could not try anything" I suggested because it might "violate protocol" and get them in trouble! Better to let the patient die than do anything as "dangerous" as Vitamin C infusions! I had done the research, I didn't get my Pharmacy Degree from Purdue University by sitting on my hands and making unfounded "recommendations", but they wouldn't/ couldnt/ shouldn't try anything other than their FDA "approved treatments" which in 1981 was basically "Nothing"... Nada... infusions of D5W... sugar water! Shortly after his death I discovered dandelion root tea could very likely have saved his life by reading a book called "The Way of Herbs" by Dr Michael Tierra ND LAc. A few months after Ken died I had the unique opportunity to be able to recommend it to a Hep B patient who came into the drugstore where I was working asking for some help. His doctor told him to get some Vitamins from the Pharmacist and go home and spend 2 months in bed. Instead he took 3 cups of dandelion root tea and 10 Gms of Vitamin C daily and was over his Hepatitis B in 2 WEEKS! (My friend had spent nearly a month in the hospital and only got worse!) He came back to the drugstore where I was working to thank me IN PERSON... he was so grateful!
My eyes began opening after that to the criminal FDA and CDC and how they prevented any real change or innovation in treatments of illness here! A year or so later I read the incredible "World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B-17" by G Edward Griffin ... a tome of mind blowing revelations! Basically what we are dealing with is fascism which has taken over first our medicine and now, tragically, our Entire government.
After those two experiences, I went looking for a place to study herbal medicine and stumbled into Acupuncture School which thanks to Jerry Brown in the 1970's also included the study of Chinese Herbal Medicine with the oldest and largest Materia Medica in the World. After 4 years of schooling at SAMRA University, which sadly went bankrupt during the 2009 Clinton/Bush Crash, I had a Masters and Doctorate in Acupuncture and Chinese Herbal Medicine. I have now been practicing for 36 years and can tell you that most of what people take as "medicine" in our country is NOT designed to cure a DAMN THING! There are NO cures in our medical system... just "treatments".. ad infinitum et ad nauseum and they are ALL poisons.... ie "dangerous drugs"... Herbal medicines, given to us by The Creator and discovered over thousands of years by our ancestors who were much more in tune with Nature than we are do have the ability to cure disease ... provided we have a system to properly diagnose what is going on and apply that knowledge ! Thank GOD the Chinese people have respect for their ancestral learning and did NOT throw away their "folk medicine" as we so condescendingly call it. I can tell you it is all based on the best principles of science... Natural science rather than artificial "organic science" which attributes all things to mindless chemicals.
I wish I could tell you here about the thousands of people I and my colleagues in Chinese Medicine have helped who were at the end of the rope health wise and how the application of a few pennies worth of natural plant based medicine has brought them back to health, not to mention the AMAZING application of acupuncture principles which is an ENTIRE Science in and of itself!
May I finish by saying that SARS Covid 2 was literally wiped out in China by acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine and this is FAR FROM the FIRST plague the Chinese have weathered using it over the last 2000 years! So when Del Bigtree and the American people finally realize that WE DON'T NEED THE DAMN PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES... we don't NEED to toady to Pfizer and Moderna, we don't NEED to spend TRILLIONS of Dollars to the point of bankruptcy... There are OTHER REAL medicines that WORK ... with virtually NO DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS and AT A FRACTION OF THE COST!! And THEY WORK BETTER than Most ALL of the poisons Americans vainly rely on daily for some modicum of relief from our myriad corporate created "illnesses"... THEN and only THEN will we stop giving these Pharma shysters a "PASS"....
Del - Schmell..... seriously when will people stop thinking these guys have anyones best interests! Wolf in sheeps clothing comes to mind.... Funny they dont seem to be struggling with any form of censorship, and they always seem to slip in some messaging re the climate viruses boogie men etc along the way. Love from Oz xx
To take this further, what is a “vaccine?” To date, and probably for every date going forward, a vaccine will never vaccinate against anything for two reasons: 1- the offender (“virus”) does not exist, and 2- antibodies are non specific meaning they do not bind to just one thing, so even if there was a “thing”, there is no antibody that will specifically bind to just one thing which invalidates the whole fiction of “vaccines”. Until we get off the germ theory Kool-aid, these ridiculous arguments will never stop and attempt after attempt will be made to dupe the public. We have to get to the heart of the matter. The Big Tree is keeping germ theory alive and he knows he’s doing this and his technique is to reel in those that have partial understanding, and then derail them so that they are more or less subtracted from the truth movement.
interesting that the issue of personal career development is very likely the root cause
Very common issue. Bigtree (small acorn) the latest
You will know them by their works. A restaurant is as good as its last meal.
Excellent synopsis. Del is off his rocker and is anything but clever.
He is capitulating nothing more or less. He needs to retire.
Should have taken his leave before this stupid bill.
Now he can only waffle.
Firstly, these “government” employees are undeclared foreign agents (tories), and are masquerading as government (lower level don’t know, but higher level absolutely know they are not unincorporated government). That is treason. Secondly, there is no such thing as a “disease”, nor a “virus”, and thus no need to inject something called a “vaccine” no matter how safe some man or woman deems it to be. May God keep you safe Peggy. Would love to have you and your husband for a home-cooked vegan organic dinner in our NoCal house!
Del needs to read the latest book by Samantha Bailey and her husband Mark Bailey - The Final Pandemic, to give himself a reality check.
Thank you, Peggy for being the voice of reason and standing up for the people. The bottom line is that vaccines are poison. Period. Why would I ever intentionally put poison into my body??
Rockin’ it girl!!!!!
Peggy, thank you for your research and your ability to speak the truth in a caring, polite way—it is your mark of consistently caring for all of humanity.
It is very clear that you are being very discerning about information, or “missing information” and when you expose this, eyes are continually opened.
Medical “science” is not what it used to be. In our day and age I call it “sc$ence”.
It never was, never is, and never will be “a one size fits all”.
I’ve known about all these people since the very beginning. Our youngest son has TS & I watched how that org was co opted by harma in 2007-8. So it’s easy for me to read between all the lies. I met DBT in person in 12/2019 at a debate in NYC. I went alone so that I could watch everyone, everything. I didn’t like the innate feeling I had watching D pose with moms of V injured children like he was some sort of rock star idol. The entire event was like some sort of MLM event and totally bizarre.
FF to March 2021 a week after our stepson was killed by the J&J shot, Del called me on my cell phone and wanted my husband and I to fly out the next morning to go on his show. Of course we said NO, I’ve never felt so repulsed by a person’s personal desperation to reach out to a grieving family, NO LESS, to be used as his personal victims for money & views. It is my opinion that these people are very evil, I’ve always said this from 2016-17 >. But I had to witness it in person to truly know how far they will go. My faith and CONFIDENCE are in the hands of my personal savior Jesus Christ who keeps me safe from these evil doer’s. It is my prayer that others will awake.
Thank you Peggy for your keen discernment, unbinding quest for the truth and the courage to share it. 🙏❤️
I am so very sorry for your tragic loss. My heart goes out to you and all those harmed by these products and coercive protocols.
Thank you Peggy. I think it’s so diabolical what ICAN is doing.
I truly had not kept up with Del Bigtree for awhile so I was surprised to hear this from him! Being that when the vaccines were first released, he is the one that had 3 nurses from different areas on his show who had been vaccinated and were affected by them in ways such as losing their ability to walk, so weak they could not get out of bed. They were forced to take the vaccine and Del Big Tree was appalled. So now he is in the pocket of big Pharma??? What a hypocrite!
And remember, those three nurses were asked by Del whether or not they believed in vaccines and would take other ones, and they all said yes.
However, I remember that they could no longer work, and they had no recourse with the drug companies. they also said their own insurance companies were not paying for anything. I guess i don't remember that they said "yes"
Yep, they all said yes.
Thank you for making it crystal clear that Del is in the pocket of the vaccine industry - something I came to realize years ago. Now he has exposed himself for the fraud that he is. Because of you, thousands of people will understand that he is a dangerous charlatan.
Also read Dr Mary's Monkey.
The pharma documents themselves prove there is "no" legitimate testing. Turtles All the Way Down, the papers being released, the documentary, The Truth About Vaccines. There are NO safe vaccines. Never were, never will be. The medical industry is compromised. It started when the Roosevelt's takeover of it. Do the research. Unless it has been removed, the documents are there. Read the truth about the so called "Spanish flu". It started in Ft Riley Kansas from a "vaccine" experiment on soldiers for meningitis.
All the grifters eventually reveal themselves. Problem is, nearly all of them are grifters or controlled opposition - just have to pay attention.
I've known about Del for years - but this is an obvious tell, even for those who are mostly asleep.